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Comment Aggression

Just a little reply to an aggressive and disrespectful comment I receive on an obviously bad poem that since has been deleted but the manner I received the comment was not well indeed.

Little snippets.
Axed word combinations.
Too verbose for some.

Complicated words unwanted.
Obviously missing that,
you comment with
higher than though,
and I appreciate you little.

Freedom of speech,
allowing aggression
among those without,
your daily basis riding desks.

Poetry antagonist.
There I used my thesaurus,
like many times before,
I won't ask you
to consult my wit fist.

Shan on Jul. 11 2007 - #
What would you consider disrespectful?  just curious is all.
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Life is what happens while you wait for great things.


Life is what happens while you wait for great things.
Jeffrey Parren on Jul. 11 2007 - #
Speaking to me like my poetry was written by a five year old and worse that it made me feel like I had no idea about writing, whereas I realize it was a bad piece but I was just trying to get out of my block and was stifled instantly.  Haven't posted here since, until now.  I have been writing seriously for the better part of 5 years, and learning constantly, though an elitist felt it was his place to put me down.

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~JPP


~JPP
Shan on Jul. 11 2007 - #

thanks for clarification.  Hey I write bad poetry all the time, but usually I already know it's bad so I don't tkae comments to heart.

Sorry to hear you felt disrespected.  Could it be that the person didn't intend you to feel that way?


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Life is what happens while you wait for great things.


Life is what happens while you wait for great things.
Jeffrey Parren on Jul. 11 2007 - #
It could be that the person doesn't know me well enough to comment the way he did. 

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~JPP


~JPP
Anstey on Jul. 11 2007 - #

Since I don't have the comment to look at it's hard to say much, butif the comment was of a technical nature,"This poem lacks depth, the meter is off, the rhyme scheme too simplistic" etc etc. Then disrespectful or not, it's basically within bounds if they're not personal or flat out rude. Hurt feelings DO suck, and I certainly don't want to create a hostile environment, However, I also don't want to sugar coat the comments.

In the case you feel a comment is out of bounds, show it to me and we'll see what we can do to address the issue, however, unless it is obviously personal and meant as such, most likely it's an unfortunate, but necessary part of a writer's cmomunity.  


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Jeffrey Parren on Jul. 11 2007 - #
Exactly why I deleted it before posting the new.  Don't want to cause any problems.  It was a technical comment with a little touch of "you suck why are you writing poetry" attached to it.  He assumed I had little idea about writing so in turn used his self-conceived better than Jeff to write down to me, instead of for and with me.

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~JPP


~JPP
Alcuin of York on Jul. 11 2007 - #
Correct me if I'm wrong, but I believe in S2L4 you meant "thou".

As for your reaction to the critiquer, it seems a bit over the top, especially given that you say you realized the poem was a bad piece - which implies that it was written at a skill level lower than you possessed at that time. In any case, each of us should be writing for ourselves, not for affirming reviews. That's how we all progress.

Alcuin

Leanne on Jul. 11 2007 - #

I've no wish to be rude, but if you know that someone doesn't "know you well enough" to have anything but the poem at hand by which to judge your standard of work, then maybe you're being rather unfair since you do admit it was not a good poem. I believe I recall the comment you're referring to, and also know the commenter well enough to know that his comments are never meant as personal attacks but rather are directed specifically to the poem. May I also suggest that it is possible you know too little about the commenter to assume that his words were meant in a rude and aggressive fashion.

We all disagree with comments from time to time. We also all write bad poems from time to time. I consider it a favour if commenters are honest enough to point out to me which of my poems are worth bothering to edit, and which are clearly bound for deletion, never to be spoken of again. Fortunately, with honest and informed critique, the deletions are fewer now

Of course, freedom of speech ensures that you are allowed to vent your frustration, and in the interest of open communication it is good that you do so. 

Jeffrey Parren on Jul. 12 2007 - #

Alcuin...I meant "though"

I tried to make it read differently, maybe another comma would have helped...


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~JPP


~JPP
Jeffrey Parren on Jul. 12 2007 - #
And Leanne yes I suppose today was one of those days for me to come across the comment again and finally react to it.  Direct sure, but it felt like more than that.  I have been posting and getting commented for quite some time.  Not new to this.

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~JPP


~JPP
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