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The Poetry Eye-Roll

Let me preface this by saying, I work with great people. Each and every person is generally kind, honest, decent and on the whole very intelligent.

I want to start there, so there's no misunderstanding, these aren't stupid people being mean. They're kind normal people being normal.

Yesterday, as some of you know, I was invited to be part of a planning committee for an upcoming poetry festival here in Massachusetts (to which you're all invited). The moment that I want to focus on is not the planning committee, which I'll share with you in a few moments.  Instead, I want to talk about an instant, where I was absolutely filled to the brim with despair.

It happened yesterday morning about 9am, right by the machine that makes my tea for me. My boss (and friend) Rick happened past me as I was making my tea, and I said, "Hey, I need to use a little vacation time and skip out after lunch today."

"Sure. What's going on?"

"I got invited to be on a planning committee for a poetry festiva."

There's a slight 'hitch' -- a pause -- in the conversation.

Then it happened, the almost imperceptible eye-roll.  

"Ok, sounds good," his eyes glaze over a bit, and he leaves.

He's a super guy. Seriously. Big supporter of arts, and a musician. But the word 'poetry' itself is enough to do that.

For the slightest instant, I was ashamed.  

 

1- Tracey on Mar. 11 2008

Clearly, the word "poetry" is LOADed with eye-rolling connotations. So what do we do -- push ahead and restore its respectability, or come up with a code word, like, "I got invited to be on a planning committee for a global communications initiative."

This is starting to remind me of my Say My Name thread. Names, and the way they are received in the world, are important. It takes a real force of nature to change that. Madonna, who transformed the blessed mother imagery to that of the pop-diva, comes to mind.

----- Sometimes, ya gotta approach me like the postman does and ring twice.

2- Aphasic on Mar. 11 2008

Excuse me if I sound somewhat sceptical here, but can you detect any difference between these two statements...

1/ I got invited to be on a planning committee for a poetry festival.

2/ I want to attend a planning committee for a poetry festival.

? Maybe I've got this wrong, but the first statement could be read as...

I got roped into some planning committee for a poetry festival.

Almost an invitation for sympathy (You poor bastard - what a waste of holiday time)

[afterthought - similar subliminal message within "I need to use a little vacation time..." rather than "I want to/I'd like to..."]

[and yes, I read your earlier comment in Leanne's rant thread :>]
Is that an unreasonable/unfair observation based on the scenario presented here?

4- Aphasic on Mar. 11 2008

Yeh - that's ok Stephan - obviously I could only go on what you'd presented here. Everyone needs a monkey's advocate to keep them honest *cacophonous screech*

5- Tracey on Mar. 11 2008

Actually, the ever-observant Aphasic is on to something. I "stopped" at your wording myself, thinking that it was a weenie way to ask for time:

"I got invited to be on a planning committee for a poetry festival."

Aphasic's suggestions are good in terms of "playing the game," kind of going along with the eyeball roll whilst pushing your own agenda forward. Here are others:

"I've been asked to sit on the board of an arts committee."

"I've been asked to participate on the planning committee for a state poetry event."

"I'm participating in the planning of a statewide arts event focused on writing."

It's all in the wording. While I know what you wrote might not be exactly what you said, what you wrote suggests that you approached them with a bit of...i dunno. An inferiority complex? Poetic embarassment? Less confidence than I'd like to see?

Am I reading too much into this? Maybe. But, I think these are all good things for us to share as we further the poetic cause. How a poet presents him or herself counts more, I think, than writers of other genres because there's a whole lot more shite to get through to reach people's hearts and brains. (Don't dwell on that image for too long ~ shudder.)

 

 

----- Sometimes, ya gotta approach me like the postman does and ring twice.

6- Tracey on Mar. 11 2008

P.S. What's the date? Location? Is there a website featuring the particulars?

 

8- Derma Kaput on Mar. 11 2008

Okay, now imagine you work in a machine shop and you have to ask the foreman for the afternoon off for a poetry related event. Now, there's an interesting reaction, and it goes way beyond the eye roll.  If you take the afternoon off anyway, its a disciplinary issue.  Embarrassment is the least of your problems - even though you've just publicly emasculated yourself.  Count your lucky stars Stephen. Of course, it goes without saying, poetry is nothing to be embarrassed about, nor emasculating.  Except that there is a level of reality that is dictated by social context.  All you can do is defy it and hold your head high.

10- Derma Kaput on Mar. 11 2008

I'd restate mine, but I think it got a bad reaction last time!

11- Joe R on Mar. 11 2008

"Monkey's Advocate" love it.

Yes "People Suck" I had one of those days to

 

And try telling them you have been in the martial arts for a long time, that get's some weird reactions, hence it does not get mentioned.

I had a co-worker for a while who writes poetry, shame she did not mention it much either because of odd reactions from people. Say I should try to get her on here...

 

 

"Buck up little camper, we'll beat this slope together!" 

12- Leanne on Mar. 11 2008

I believe the rest of that statement is "People suck if you're lucky."

13- Aphasic on Mar. 12 2008

I disagree - poeple suck whether you're lucky or not - it's just inhumane nature.
I'm a gardener, for at least part of the time, and my customers would be incredulous if I told them I was not a poet, not gay, and not happy to be rolling around in shit all day. Fortunately I don't do much in the way of communication at work, so I have neither to lie nor tell the truth - I just smile, roll my eyes, suck on a piece of straw and grunt occasionally - just like being back in school.
I guess I've blown it, admitting I suck...

14- Tracey on Mar. 12 2008

Speaking of sucky people...my brother called me on his way home from work. He's in traffic and there's a guy in front of him screaming at what my bro thinks is a four year old kid. At some point the guy throws the kid's stuffed rabbit out the window and the kid is staring out the back window, crying, as the Dad drives on. Bastard.

 

----- Sometimes, ya gotta approach me like the postman does and ring twice.

15- Aphasic on Mar. 12 2008

I disagree...

17- Aphasic on Mar. 12 2008

Anstey:
With all parts of everything - I'm just going through a disagreeable phase.

So, while I'm here...
"my brother called me on his way home from work. He's in traffic and there's a guy in front of him screaming at what my bro thinks is a four year old kid. At some point the guy throws the kid's stuffed rabbit out the window and the kid is staring out the back window, crying, as the Dad drives on."

Yeh - he's a bastard - natural reaction. But really, in retrospect, how easy is it to assume that what is seen represents 'what happened'?

Consider this: the driver's brother made a call, asking to be picked up. The driver goes to the location given, the brother dives in the back, clutching a stuffed rabbit, prostrates himself and tells the driver to hit the gas. The four-year-old grabs the rabbit..."Ooh, a present, thank you brother-person". Driver grills brother - eventually, brother admits rabbit is stuffed with rocks/tabs/H-bombs - driver goes thermo-nuclear, snatches rabbit, throws rabbit out the window. 4-year-old bawls like a 4-year-old whose rabbit has just been thrown out the window.

Well, unlikely maybe - but possible. Was that a 4-year-old, or a pygmy psychopath. Was the driver the father of the 4-year-old? The pygmy's brief?
I don't know...all I know is what Tracey related of her brother's call while he was in traffic. But as I say, that has nothing to do with my comment. I just felt compelled to say 'I disagree' - probably because I suck :>
Sorry Tracey - it wasn't my intention to hijack or diss your comment - it could have been any time any place.
Anstey - now look what you've made me do!

19- ShannonV on Mar. 12 2008

bunnies suck i hate bunnies
Stephan Anstey

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